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What would you do?

A 21 year old Caucasian female comes into your office in early February. She is 5’3″ and according to your scale is barely over 100 pounds. You diagnosed her about 9 months earlier with Type 2 diabetes and advised her to control it with diet and exercise. You told her to come back and see you if she ever felt “really sick” or when she got pregnant. She thinks the reason she is not feeling well is because of her diabetes and brings you this paper.

 
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So here’s the question: what do you do?
  • Ginger Vieira says:

    Well, first and foremost, I’d sit down with her for a very basic yet very informative “diabetes class” and help her truly understand the physiology behind what’s happening in her body, what her responsibilities are as a diabetic, and what to do when she feels confused or lost.

    Then I’d give her a hug.

    (This is a very interesting post, Sara!!!!)

    November 3, 2010 at 12:14 am
  • Amalas says:

    Is this a trick question? Looks like that person needs to be on insulin and checked for Type 1 antibodies!

    November 3, 2010 at 12:34 am
  • Jaimie says:

    Ditto Amalas …

    November 3, 2010 at 12:51 am
  • Wendy says:

    I’d get her a shot of insulin STAT and apologize for the misdiagnosis!

    November 3, 2010 at 1:05 am
  • Bernard Farrell says:

    I’d congratulate her on writing down the numbers, and bringing them to my attention. Then I’d try and figure out whether she has type 1, or what else is going on.

    November 3, 2010 at 8:20 am
  • Steve Parker, M.D. says:

    Probably admit to the hospital for intensive education and initiation of insulin therapy. Look for precipitant of poor diabetes control.

    This doesn’t sound like type 2 diabetes.

    Might be interesting to check for pancreatic autoantibodies.

    -Steve

    November 3, 2010 at 8:27 am
  • Mike says:

    Wooah, There are many things happening. I think everyone has a point.

    2 things that interest me is;

    1) Are all her numbers like that, perhaps she has been feeling unwell because she is actually unwell???

    2) Something managed to bring her BG down overnight on 2 occasions.

    Mike

    November 3, 2010 at 8:43 am
  • Sysy Morales says:

    I’d admit her to the hospital and try a no carb diet to see what her blood sugar does while keeping her very hydrated and then check for the pancreatic autoantibodies. Could be type 1 or could be type 2…I’ve heard it go both ways from similar numbers.

    November 3, 2010 at 9:38 am
  • Carol says:

    Interesting question, especially since I was the gal you describe here…only happened to me at age 27. My GP initially tried to treat me as a T2, when clearly I was a LADA -T1. I think I would have most appreciated an apology, and an immediate referral to an endocrinologist…making the call for her to hopefully get her in quickly. If the patient could not get in to see an endocrinologist within a day or two, I would let her know that I suspected she was a T1, and explain what that means. I’d test her for ketones, and depending on those results, might chose to admit her to the hospital to make sure she avoided DKA. I would also go ahead and do an A1C, start her on a basal insulin like Lantus, tell her to keep her carb intake at 45 grams or less per meal (show her a website like calorieking), and e-mail her blood sugar readings to me daily until the endoc could take over. I would also tell her that diabetes is not her fault, and that no amount of diet, exercise or oral medication will chase it away if she is indeed a T1. I would tell her that her life is not over, and that she can live well with diabetes, though it will mean some changes. I would encourage her to call me with any additional questions she had. Oh, and I’d give her the link to the DOC so she would know immediately that she’s not alone.

    November 3, 2010 at 9:46 am
  • Cara says:

    I put her in the hospital. That’s what I do. :/ She’s most certainly NOT a T2.

    November 3, 2010 at 10:17 am
  • Scott K. Johnson says:

    The story of someone I know I think… 🙂

    November 3, 2010 at 10:21 am
  • Windy says:

    You put her in the hospital and let her know she is most likely a Type 1. You also tell her to never go back to the first doctor!!

    November 3, 2010 at 10:31 am
  • Jon says:

    Hopefully, stop “treating” diabetes and refer ALL my diabetic patients to a doctor who knows more about diabetes. She never should have been diagnosed type 2 (unless she’s lost a lot of weight and BG were controlled with diet/exercise alone to begin with). And a 9 month f/u???!!!! That’s just crazy! A new diagnosis should f/u AT LEAST monthly for a few months (in my opinion anyway). Definitely not longer than 2-3 months. Wow!

    November 3, 2010 at 11:28 am
  • karena says:

    Admit her to the hospital! Being I’m not a doctor I don’t know what else would happen but I’d sure as hedoubles get some insulin in her!!

    I am so glad she got the necessary help and a proper diagnosis ….. and she is awesome and fine now 🙂

    November 3, 2010 at 12:06 pm
  • Alicia Thomas says:

    I agree with Carol.

    November 3, 2010 at 3:11 pm
  • George says:

    I would slap myself in the face, buy the girl a case of diet sodapop and start her up on Insulin.

    November 3, 2010 at 5:03 pm
  • Jeff Mather says:

    Well, since you misdiagnosed her in the first place, you’d probably say, “Damn, girl. You really need some better control.” And then you’d send her to somebody who (unbeknownst to you) probably would do a better job of seeing that she’s most likely T1.

    Of course, that’s just a guess.

    November 3, 2010 at 5:46 pm
  • Chris says:

    I’d want to get that girl on my podcast to talk about it. Oh wait…I already did!

    To the point of your post: …..Dude!

    November 3, 2010 at 5:54 pm
  • Bob P says:

    I don’t agree with the folks saying that she’s DEFINITELY not T2. The only clue the case AS PRESENTED gives about her food choices during the period covered by the number is that she’s not overweight. I certainly agree that T1 seems more likely, but I don’t see why it couldn’t have been poorly controlled T2, which doesn’t require obesity.

    November 3, 2010 at 6:02 pm
  • cherise says:

    If it were me-I would write a list of test and questions she should ask the doctor and go from there. I agree with Bob we can not assume that she has Type 1 or LADA with out her having the proper test done.

    November 3, 2010 at 7:57 pm
  • cherise says:

    Oops, I just realized…it’s you! I knew that sounded wayyyyy to familiar.

    November 3, 2010 at 7:59 pm
  • Gary says:

    I was really tired when I was diagnoed with T2 diabetes. And if my reading were this hight, i suspect that my doctor would have put me in the hospital rather quickly, to determine what was going on with my BG level. I am still working and have lost over 40 LBs(why I don’t know) but I have. Whoever this is needs to see a doctor really quickly , because they are not well.

    November 4, 2010 at 9:46 am

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